Circus Square is a Bad Name!

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markvanpatten	Letter to Editor doesn't make solid case.	#61	[url]	[-]
Posts: 116 03/30/08 11:28 AM	from Christopher Johanson's letter to the editor... We have not yet found historical accounts describing circuses or other activities that explain the name. But that cannot diminish the fact that there is written evidence that the people of the late 19th century clearly associated that block with the word "circus." Wow, talk about making my case! It's a vague reference. It's been called circus lot and old circus ground. So what? He could have written "a consultant found this reference, and we have embraced it without hesitation and there shall be no further discussion." Once again, why no response from the DRA executive or the DRA president? Jonesville was a thriving area of Bowling Green. 67 families and many businesses were located there. What's left? A small plaque on WKU's campus. (paid for by WKU) Yet, a vague reference on a map is highlighted via the focal point for the redevelopment. Is there a landmark area to honor BG's founders: the Moore brothers? Here are the parks I can think of... notice how they are named after people who made a contribution to the area? I guess we have run out of important people to honor? Basil Griffin C. W. Lampkin Chuck Crume Covington Woods Fort Webb Fountain Square H. P. Thomas Hobson Grove James Hines Lovers Lane Ogden Pedigo Preston Miller Reservoir Hill RiverWalk/Brownfield Roland Bland Spero Kereiakes
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SokyBiz		#62	[url]	[-]
Posts: 467 03/30/08 1:25 PM	bgpackrat wrote: I would really like for the old gas station to be renovated into the restrooms and vending machine area and information center. It's right across from the front door of the Chamber of Commerce and the unforgettable stop sign on our beloved 880 by pass. Why not? I agree with you. It would be a good opportunity for the City to put announcements and events schedules as well. Besides restoring and maintaining a very unique piece of history, they could leverage the location to their benefit while providing a public service to the community.
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bgpackrat		#63	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3066 03/30/08 2:52 PM	SokyBiz wrote: bgpackrat wrote: I would really like for the old gas station to be renovated into the restrooms and vending machine area and information center. It's right across from the front door of the Chamber of Commerce and the unforgettable stop sign on our beloved 880 by pass. Why not? I agree with you. It would be a good opportunity for the City to put announcements and events schedules as well. Besides restoring and maintaining a very unique piece of history, they could leverage the location to their benefit while providing a public service to the community. That's a lot easier than trying to retro a tractor trailer into a lavatory. Ya'll better decide before Jerome takes out the second morgage on the double wide to get the Black Tie people to custom build the mobile units to include attendance service and shower facililties, White Stone Marble. http://www.blacktieservices.com/ The company name will be OOLITE LOO if ya'll don't change the parks name by then. I'm trying to get Jerome the Cell numbers PEE-PEE1 or DOO-DOO2. I think we need to really get the volunteer group to spend money on the Standard Oil Station, or I will threaten to get a business license. Last Edited By: bgpackrat 03/30/08 3:21 PM. Edited 1 time.
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SokyBiz		#64	[url]	[-]
Posts: 467 03/30/08 4:26 PM	I talked to some people who are considering developing the business on the other end of the park. They are genuinely concerned that their business will turn into the public rest room. They said, "It's one thing to allow a few people in to use the facilities once in a while, but when you have to clean up after a few hundred, it starts to cost more money than it's worth." I tend to agree. They are planning to have several events at Circus Square throughout the year. I personally think that if it is possible, they should plan ahead and put in some restrooms for the public. Don't forget the parents... put in those little diaper changing shelves for the parents of very young children too. Who knows... if you pass the hat, the local merchants might even chip in just to keep from having to clean up their own rest rooms after a large event. Well they might.?!?. If we go with port-a-potties... it could become "Cirque du Soil eh." --- Okay, that was terrible. Sorry.
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BGKYLurker		#65	[url]	[-]
Posts: 845 03/30/08 4:39 PM	wimojo wrote: Where are the restrooms at Fountain Square Park? I guess it's been poor planning for all these years! Thank God for Subway and 440 Main.
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luckyinbg		#66	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3780 03/30/08 4:53 PM	BGKYLurker wrote: wimojo wrote: Where are the restrooms at Fountain Square Park? I guess it's been poor planning for all these years! Thank God for Subway and 440 Main. I'm pretty partial to the big tree on the west end of the park.
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BGKYLurker		#67	[url]	[-]
Posts: 845 03/30/08 4:57 PM	luckyinbg wrote: BGKYLurker wrote: wimojo wrote: Where are the restrooms at Fountain Square Park? I guess it's been poor planning for all these years! Thank God for Subway and 440 Main. I'm pretty partial to the big tree on the west end of the park. I'm requesting bank surveilance tape first thing tomorrow Lucky. For a fee I'll turn it over to you. Last Edited By: BGKYLurker 03/30/08 5:05 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Gator		#68	[url]	[-]
Posts: 351 03/30/08 5:42 PM	Mark, I think the Moore brothers were/are mentioned on a marker at Big Spring Park. Most don't realize this is a park but Citizens National built it at the corner of Main and Chestnut. It had a running fountain (model of the Big Spring), landscaping and some park benches. Last time I was there the benches were rotting and of course the fountain has been dry for years. There is a marker on a post in the sidewalk on the Chestnut side and a plaque in the park. BTW, we used to call Covington Woods Park 'Municipal Park'. I used to love to play on the old airplane near the swings! They had the best swings in town too. Oh one other thing the fairgrounds used to be pretty much where Fairview Plaza is today. Circle Square is pretty much a waste as I see it. So many times you will see where cities or towns try to make people come downtown. Usually it doesn't work and after a few years things fall into disrepair. BTW, guess where the money for upkeep will come from? HA
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luckyinbg		#69	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3780 03/30/08 5:45 PM	BGKYLurker wrote: luckyinbg wrote: BGKYLurker wrote: wimojo wrote: Where are the restrooms at Fountain Square Park? I guess it's been poor planning for all these years! Thank God for Subway and 440 Main. I'm pretty partial to the big tree on the west end of the park. I'm requesting bank surveilance tape first thing tomorrow Lucky. For a fee I'll turn it over to you. They had better have a very strong zoom lens to see anything incriminating.
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luckyinbg		#70	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3780 03/30/08 5:54 PM	Here's an explanation for the name for all you people sweatin' the name. http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters/l3.txt I must ask the question, "Who cares?" Of all the things in this world to worry about, and this is a big issue. If you ask me, it is named properly because the whole ordeal has been a circus.
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luckyinbg		#71	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3780 03/30/08 5:56 PM	luckyinbg wrote: BGKYLurker wrote: luckyinbg wrote: BGKYLurker wrote: wimojo wrote: Where are the restrooms at Fountain Square Park? I guess it's been poor planning for all these years! Thank God for Subway and 440 Main. I'm pretty partial to the big tree on the west end of the park. I'm requesting bank surveilance tape first thing tomorrow Lucky. For a fee I'll turn it over to you. They had better have a very strong zoom lens to see anything incriminating. That's so they can zoom through all those branches/obstacles in the way, not because..... Aw man. I can't have nuthin'.
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bgpackrat		#72	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3066 03/30/08 6:22 PM	Well I agree with the naming, it's too late Circus Square sticks. Now, with the idea of this being a park, what other things will be there? Will they have stuff like the farmer's market on Saturday morning? Will they have night concerts? What about events. I like to plan my weekends in advance and I need something that will draw me to actually go there instead of passing by. Last Edited By: bgpackrat 03/31/08 6:15 AM. Edited 1 time.
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MASONICELVIS		#73	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5813 03/31/08 12:06 AM	may i suggest midgit strippers ? just a thought.
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SBO		#74	[url]	[-]
Posts: 804 03/31/08 2:20 AM	markvanpatten wrote: Once again, why no response from the DRA executive or the DRA president? I agree with you. They should respond. Maybe they have responded, right here, on this board. Last Edited By: SBO 03/31/08 2:38 AM. Edited 1 time.
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BGlifer		#75	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1289 03/31/08 10:55 AM	What's there to respond to, this board? It's only folks like us who read and respond to the Sound Off board; real people don't bother worrying about a bunch of goofballs like us.
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wimojo		#76	[url]	[-]
Posts: 453 03/31/08 11:37 AM	Let me get one thing straight, restrooms are wonderful at parks. My point to this whole discussion is that there are many small parks around our city and other cities that don't have restrooms at them for whatever reason. The parks that come to mind here locally are Reservoir Hill, Ogden and Fountain Square Park. Because they don't have restrooms doesn't mean it's poor planning as some have suggested, these parks are for short term use, meaning unless there is a major event park goers aren't going to be spending hours at these parks. I would bet that the DRA would like to include restrooms in Circus Square and I believe that is one of the plans for the Standard Oil building, but most of the City Commissioners don't want to spend the money and want the building torn down. So then the question is do you want your tax dollars increased to build restrooms at a city park or can you live knowing that there are no restrooms down there and if you attend a major event you might have to use a Port-a-potty?
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bgpackrat		#77	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3066 03/31/08 11:46 AM	I would bet that the DRA would like to include restrooms in Circus Square and I believe that is one of the plans for the Standard Oil building, but most of the City Commissioners don't want to spend the money and want the building torn down. So then the question is do you want your tax dollars increased to build restrooms at a city park or can you live knowing that there are no restrooms down there and if you attend a major event you might have to use a Port-a-potty? I'd like for once to see my tax dollars go to something that I want. I want to keep the Standard oil building and have restrroms in them and an information booth and vending machines. There's money out there if the DRA has means & methods to get the grants to restore the building and make it something the public will enjoy.
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wimojo		#78	[url]	[-]
Posts: 453 03/31/08 11:51 AM	bgpackrat wrote: I would bet that the DRA would like to include restrooms in Circus Square and I believe that is one of the plans for the Standard Oil building, but most of the City Commissioners don't want to spend the money and want the building torn down. So then the question is do you want your tax dollars increased to build restrooms at a city park or can you live knowing that there are no restrooms down there and if you attend a major event you might have to use a Port-a-potty? I'd like for once to see my tax dollars go to something that I want. I want to keep the Standard oil building and have restrroms in them and an information booth and vending machines. There's money out there if the DRA has means & methods to get the grants to restore the building and make it something the public will enjoy. I agree!!
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markvanpatten	Hijacked! As usual.	#79	[url]	[-]
Posts: 116 03/31/08 12:54 PM	What's with you regulars that you hijack topics: in this case the name of the park and run off with it? Start another thread. From what I understand there is no charge to have a new one! Tell you what, I'm feeling generous, I'll start the thread.
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Theamoo		#80	[url]	[-]
Posts: 280 03/31/08 1:14 PM	wimojo wrote: Let me get one thing straight, restrooms are wonderful at parks. My point to this whole discussion is that there are many small parks around our city and other cities that don't have restrooms at them for whatever reason. The parks that come to mind here locally are Reservoir Hill, Ogden and Fountain Square Park. Because they don't have restrooms doesn't mean it's poor planning as some have suggested, these parks are for short term use, meaning unless there is a major event park goers aren't going to be spending hours at these parks. I would bet that the DRA would like to include restrooms in Circus Square and I believe that is one of the plans for the Standard Oil building, but most of the City Commissioners don't want to spend the money and want the building torn down. So then the question is do you want your tax dollars increased to build restrooms at a city park or can you live knowing that there are no restrooms down there and if you attend a major event you might have to use a Port-a-potty? I think you hit the nail on the head. The parks you mentioned without restroom facilities are some of the most least used parks in the city. My understanding of at least the partial use of Circus Square will be for concerts & a farmer's market among other things. Wouldn't these both fall under more long-term use, if not for the patron's, what about those working at them. Also, wouldn't the International Festival be included for one of the uses of Circus Square? Sorry, I still don't like the name...my fingers keep wanting to type Circle Square...but, I guess I (and several others) will probably just have to get over it. Besides, people will call it whatever they want anyway... Three Springs Park vs. Basil Griffin Park Municipal Park vs. Covington Woods Park (Gator, I used to play on the airplane too. Hospital Hill Park vs. Reservoir Hill Park Water Park vs. Russell Sims Aquatic Center.
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